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TheDutch- 02-25-2008

If you get your hands on an elite spiritus armor(shouldn't be too hard) you can try this build, it's what i use on my cleric and it works fine.. DEX: 136+4(dex rings and 2 dex from armor) CON: 150+9(con helmet) WIS: 208 4.6 Bless 4.0 Heal 4.0 Confuse 4.0 Lotos 4.0 First Aid I think you got the dex part wrong, shouldnt it be 146 dex? Unless you dont use 10 skill points, but i seriously doubt that :wink:

dummy-- 02-25-2008

If you get your hands on an elite spiritus armor(shouldn't be too hard) you can try this build, it's what i use on my cleric and it works fine.. DEX: 136+4(dex rings and 2 dex from armor) CON: 150+9(con helmet) WIS: 208 4.6 Bless 4.0 Heal 4.0 Confuse 4.0 Lotos 4.0 First Aid I think you got the dex part wrong, shouldnt it be 146 dex? Unless you dont use 10 skill points, but i seriously doubt that :wink: ur right :o

YatZee- 02-26-2008

I think you got the dex part wrong, shouldnt it be 146 dex? Unless you dont use 10 skill points, but i seriously doubt that :wink: Whoops, missed that :P Fixed.

Sakonic- 02-26-2008

Hey all, i have Spiritus unique actually, and so i use the 145 con, and rest dex build... But i still get 1 hit, and would like to know, does mt Ex-def matter, or should i just stack Def madly? And another question.. E1, E2, E3, etc. does it effect the damage i take, or only the damage i deal or what?

Warsong- 02-26-2008

ex helps u against booms where as def helps against melee. my opinion is that ex def is better because if someone melee u they aint going to 1 hit u, so u can just heal, BUT if a gunner boom u with low exdef ur dead. so my opinion is pump exdef, if u wana pump exdef u need dex, which means u need 140 con (gotta be a nice as armour) and rest dex, otherwise u will be creamed, but if u wana be a healing party slut, sure go con and little dex and just heal, how boring. ill just add as a note, with 4.0 heal and 140 con rest dex, ull still 1.1 for atleast 10khp

Sakonic- 02-26-2008

Ill just get a def shield on hand 1 and an ex def on hand 2.. and ill try out ex def and def, to see what works out best on booms, if i can survive a boom with def, its awesome, else ill have to use ex def.. thank you :)

Sakonic- 02-26-2008

Its amazing, a lifeoff is so easy, no one can kill it, simply no one.. for a cleric its really hard.. i have 2x spiritus unique, one with ED and one with Def, its hard to choose, i seem to lose no matter what.. or i run out of mp :s Even with top items they kill me incredibly fast, whats up with that? i dont get it..

YatZee- 02-26-2008

ex helps u against booms where as def helps against melee. my opinion is that ex def is better because if someone melee u they aint going to 1 hit u, so u can just heal, BUT if a gunner boom u with low exdef ur dead. so my opinion is pump exdef, if u wana pump exdef u need dex, which means u need 140 con (gotta be a nice as armour) and rest dex, otherwise u will be creamed, but if u wana be a healing party slut, sure go con and little dex and just heal, how boring. ill just add as a note, with 4.0 heal and 140 con rest dex, ull still 1.1 for atleast 10khp DEF and ED both affect booms and normal hits, and since clerics have really low ED compared to DEF it wont help them more. And IF he would choose to go for ED, using 145 CON would benefit him more than 140 CON since he has a unique armor. And not everyone think that the support role in a party is boring, if you just want to be offensive, you shouldn't make a cleric in the first place.

Sakonic- 02-26-2008

I want to be unique, i dont wanna play a warrior, chanter, sin, archer etc that everyone plays >_< i wanna be a cleric, but i want to be able to solo.. and it cant be true that no matter what, ppl will be able to 1 hit me? Can soemone explain me the exact effect of ED vs damage, and Def vs damage? thanks

superpc- 02-26-2008

i doubt a cleric will be one hitted that easily, only a shadow with godly gear and L pot will be able to do it atleast i never had problem being one hitted as a cleric before...

YatZee- 02-26-2008

I want to be unique, i dont wanna play a warrior, chanter, sin, archer etc that everyone plays >_< i wanna be a cleric, but i want to be able to solo.. and it cant be true that no matter what, ppl will be able to 1 hit me? Well clerics aren't good for soloing that's just how it is even if you make a high dex build with Dark Sword you'll have a pretty hard time killing people. Stealths on Torment are really strong and you'll get 1hit alot yea, but not at all every time, find yourself a good priest and it'll never happen.

Sakonic- 02-26-2008

Well, tell me some about your build then, because i do get 1-hitted, and i cant decide if i wanna stack def, or wear ex def.? Ok, and lets say i wanna be a godlike PT healer, what build should i get? what is the ULTIMATE items, dont bother if they are incredibly expensive, just tell me. thank you

superpc- 02-26-2008

the 145con unique u'r having is already a godly item(it's fuckin much better than a top 145con armor, that made it a godly armor, or even imba :) ) get as much def as u can if u get 1 hitted, it's prolly the stealth is using L or G pot, where u'r on the S pot :)

Sakonic- 02-26-2008

Alright.. so, unique dex torment gloves, and elite dex boots, or should i get con gloves and boots?

superpc- 02-26-2008

con for the ED, at some points ur magic resistance % is not increasing linearly as ur MR value goes up :) u will have around 71% with def helm, 75% with ED helm, that's enough

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